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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Nov 14, 2015 12:56:02 GMT
Who's 'they', precisely?[/quote] Precisely...........here you go "Unfortunately due to the data protection act the precise names of terrorist supporters and suspects are not allowed to be put into the public domain as this will impose upon their civil liberties " [/quote] So, how will you recognise 'them', to wipe 'them' out? I know! Let's make 'them' wear a yellow star! Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 13:01:03 GMT
Precisely...........here you go "Unfortunately due to the data protection act the precise names of terrorist supporters and suspects are not allowed to be put into the public domain as this will impose upon their civil liberties " [/quote] So, how will you recognise 'them', to wipe 'them' out? I know! Let's make 'them' wear a yellow star! Thoughts?[/quote] They are well known Think comparing Isis Islamic terrorists to the Jews and the holocaust is disgustingly You really are a low life shit if you think that is acceptable
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Nov 14, 2015 13:04:28 GMT
Youre right, I didn't realise it was that easy. Well, crack on. You should be done by Monday...
I wish I was as clever and all seeing as you, rubberjohnny. How do you do it? Amazing!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 13:20:04 GMT
Youre right, I didn't realise it was that easy. Well, crack on. You should be done by Monday... I wish I was as clever and all seeing as you, rubberjohnny. How do you do it? Amazing! It's not hard mate "Yellow star" You think ISIS are like the Jews in the holocaust?? Have you seen what's going on with them beheadings, gay people thrown off buildings, women openly raped, etc etc Now they open fire on concert goers in Paris killifish nearly 200 innocent people.you lot hate our solution what's yoursyou criticize same as Poldark but you say nothing cause you have no idea. Your a sad fool
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Nov 14, 2015 13:24:47 GMT
And once again,rubberJohnny, you demonstrate an absolute lack of joined up thinking, of critical thought process, of simple listening skills.
People say things, then you hear whatever you have decided to hear, and reply to that. It's like trying to discuss something with an eight year old. A particularly indulged, spoiled,, stupid eight year old.So, again, good luck.
Just one thing - do you think Banksy would want 'them' killing?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 13:30:07 GMT
And once again,rubberJohnny, you demonstrate an absolute lack of joined up thinking, of critical thought process, of simple listening skills. People say things, then you hear whatever you have decided to hear, and reply to that. It's like trying to discuss something with an eight year old. A particularly indulged, spoiled,, stupid eight year old.So, again, good luck. Just one thing - do you think Banksy would want 'them' killing? Ha ha same as ever your a child and a fool call lots of names. I don't think!! , he's a cunt etc all you do is call names Come on one thought what's your solution just one .......asked before will ask again??? So far we have had ISIS terrorists compared to the Jews in Nazi Germany mmmmm!! And your the clever one What's your solution dear fellow
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Post by dodcoquelicot on Nov 14, 2015 16:31:36 GMT
If anyone hears from Roy can you post on here please. He's ok. He doesn't live in Paris, but I hear he's ok. thank you so much for all you attentions. Yes as I said to Plip and Redneck and mon my Facebook, we are all shocked : even in Strasbourg, nobody's was talking and prefers to avoid others looks, as a shame , rather an big sadness... My cousin lives near the Bataclan , some friends in the same area too, they are all safe. The mum of my kids are safe too ( she was in Oarsis yesterday ) What t is really sad And a shame with this cowards of terrorists is that they killed in a popular area , even a terrorist made him explodes near an homeless, they shot youths in a concert , people in restaurants... I hate them, , no I have no feeling for them, they had killing people for nothing .. I don't understand the French government that let those terrorists out ( they know most of them but " leaves them out, under survey " -sic ) Because they are afraid to be taxed as racists as most of them lives in the suburbs and are trained to killed in Syria or .., in France ! A very great thank you for all your sympathetic messages Love you . Yes, big big sad day with tears .. I lived in this area for a while , a lot of youth lives thee , le Bataclan was a formidable concert place , Invader made La Generale there, yes, a multi racial and cultural area. Peace.
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Post by poledance on Nov 14, 2015 22:17:19 GMT
Habitual lurker here - only registered so I could watch the JR screening but I couldn't stay quiet on this anymore. Last nights events were a tipping point to global tolerance of these issues. The muslim community should have done more to address theses issues long ago. Instead they do nothing but pay lip service to the countries that look after them and would slit their throats at the first opportunity. its time to just wipe out any and all known and suspected sympathisers - no one is safe and the left wing hug a terrorist views are sickening - these people don't 'want' anything but global domination Fuck off poldark and thatcher - your left-wing bullshit will take us back to the dark ages. We aren't the aggressors we are the victims and its time to fight back. If the muslim community wont do anything then they are just as much at fault - wipe the whole fucking lot out for all I care Bigotry lovely warm bigotry That'll get you far in life Of course it's all the Muslims fault - fuck off It's laughable you wanted to look at jr's work Learn some ficking history if you want aggression go back to the colonial period, go back to the spread of Christianity , go back, go back, learn that hatred and fear creates more hatred and fear.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 22:40:47 GMT
Sadly, the response will be an enormous show of force against targets throughout the M.E. Many people will die, both terrorists and innocents. People will flee the carnage. Refugees will be treated suspiciously and poorly, if not turned away completely. I suspect there will be more of these terrible events in Europe until the free movement of people in the EU stops and borders are checked. Law enforcement will become more aggressive in their searches for terrorists and innocent people's rights will be trampled on. Mass deportations. Hatred and intolerance will thrive.
Hopefully, I am wrong.
I'm in shitty mood. Sorry.
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Post by Dr. Plip on Nov 15, 2015 0:14:46 GMT
If we take 9/11 as the most successful terrorist attack in history, what happened with the US after that? The military got a blank cheque, the secret service answered to no one, two countries got invaded, huge numbers of both civilian and combatants killed. And what's it fixed? We any safer?
The military alone can't do it. You either have to kill everybody or find other solutions to the problem.
I'm not against military action, but might alone won't do it. I think it'll take a military, political and economic response to combat extremists that are forged in volatile and unstable regions. Otherwise you're just going to perpetuate the violence. The power of education shouldn't be underestimated either. On all sides.
The West shouldn't act as the recruitment drive for ISIS. They want us to be the enemy they say we are, but I think our response should always be measured and our humanity never restricted.
Anyway, we won't fix these problems overnight. Probably not on the art forums either.
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Post by bustart on Nov 17, 2015 20:23:21 GMT
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Nov 20, 2015 21:21:26 GMT
Precisely...........here you go "Unfortunately due to the data protection act the precise names of terrorist supporters and suspects are not allowed to be put into the public domain as this will impose upon their civil liberties " [/quote] So, how will you recognise 'them', to wipe 'them' out? I know! Let's make 'them' wear a yellow star! Thoughts?[/quote] It's like I had a crystal ball! Or, I learned from history... www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/20/muslim-americans-outrage-donald-trump-ben-carson
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 1:57:10 GMT
" [/quote] So, how will you recognise 'them', to wipe 'them' out? I know! Let's make 'them' wear a yellow star! Thoughts?[/quote] It's like I had a crystal ball! Or, I learned from history... www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/20/muslim-americans-outrage-donald-trump-ben-carson[/quote]Here we go not sure of the point here You suggested the yellow star. Which was what the Jews were forced to wear by the Nazi's which I think was and is disgusting. Donald Trump etc suggests a database of all Muslims!!! Not sure of the relevance of this to the argument. One you and Donald cannot seem to seperate ISIs and Jihadists from the general Muslim population. I have never stated anywhere anything on the Muslim population. So this argument is irrelevantto the points I made but does highlight your and their stupidity. Regardless of the daftness of Trumps statement you and the article and the people in it are massively wrong. This is nothing like what happened to the attempted anihalation of the Jews. They were not put on a database they were rounded up put on mass thrown in cargo trains and shipped off to death camps. Starved, beaten, experimented on and the gassed on mass. Slightly different I think regardless of the Gaurdian article you fool And have the mind of a 3 year old a dumb one at that. Look up Nazi persucution of the Jews. As say regardless of the stupidity of Trump there is a difference between a database and the holocaust that the Jewish people suffered. And again I did not state anywhere in my argument any anti Muslim comments and have a lot more experience of Muslim culture than you mate
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Post by curiousgeorge on Nov 21, 2015 4:25:39 GMT
Johnny!!!!!! I think you really have screwed up and got very crossed wires here.
Why don't you just plain fuck off and spout your know-fuck-all elsewhere
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 4:06:34 GMT
Johnny!!!!!! I think you really have screwed up and got very crossed wires here. Why don't you just plain fuck off and spout your know-fuck-all elsewhere Good to see the old curiousgeorge troll back with the usual crap insults. Sorry an opinion and the truth hurts you so much. Back to your trolling Is that the best you can do??
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Post by curiousgeorge on Nov 22, 2015 4:41:31 GMT
Can an admin or mod or another member PLEASE clearly explain to the member how he has VERY obviously got his wires crossed.
Show a bit of respect. Point scoring and baiting members on a thread like this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 6:15:01 GMT
My wires are not crossed at all. George think it is you who has just come on here and told me in your usual trolling manner to fuck off.
I responded to points and an article posted by Still hate thatcher.. Both him and the article related Muslims and the Jews which sorry I object to
Then you troll in with your fuckoff so as requested before just go away!!
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Nov 22, 2015 9:10:23 GMT
Can an admin or mod or another member PLEASE clearly explain to the member how he has VERY obviously got his wires crossed. Show a bit of respect. Point scoring and baiting members on a thread like this. CG, you're wasting your time. He either doesn't have the critical faculty to understand argument s/thoughts/anything or doesn't care. Rubberjohnny only hears what he wants to hear, then responds to that. I'm not sure whether it's stupidity, ignorance or illness. Whichever, he's more to be pitied than scorned...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 9:15:09 GMT
Can an admin or mod or another member PLEASE clearly explain to the member how he has VERY obviously got his wires crossed. Show a bit of respect. Point scoring and baiting members on a thread like this. CG, you're wasting your time. He either doesn't have the critical faculty to understand argument s/thoughts/anything or doesn't care. Rubberjohnny only hears what he wants to hear, then responds to that. I'm not sure whether it's stupidity, ignorance or illness. Whichever, he's more to be pitied than scorned... Ha ha sticks and stones!!! Yet still you who has not come up with anything other than your daft Gaurdian article. Do tell us what you would do about ISIS? You've been asked a lot but nothing because apart from daft comments and calling names your clueless
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Nov 22, 2015 14:15:51 GMT
NBF mod opinion: perhaps we should lock this thread down? public discourse is great, but now it's moved on to personal attacks. what's everyone think?
My opinion: when something tragic happens, understandably people get very emotional. no matter your opinion, please remain emphatic to opposing viewpoints. you have a better chance of changing one's opinion if you can see where they're coming from, no matter how much they differ from yours
kinda on topic but not really - I just watched the Louis Theraux doc on the Westboro Baptist Church yesterday, and I was particularly struck by how he was able to keep his composure in the face of obvious bigotry.... rather than get angry, he tried to talk to them as people in an attempt to understand their feelings, while also telling them that their opinions were just opinions
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Nov 22, 2015 15:35:12 GMT
NBF mod opinion: perhaps we should lock this thread down? public discourse is great, but now it's moved on to personal attacks. what's everyone think? My opinion: when something tragic happens, understandably people get very emotional. no matter your opinion, please remain emphatic to opposing viewpoints. you have a better chance of changing one's opinion if you can see where they're coming from, no matter how much they differ from yours kinda on topic but not really - I just watched the Louis Theraux doc on the Westboro Baptist Church yesterday, and I was particularly struck by how he was able to keep his composure in the face of obvious bigotry.... rather than get angry, he tried to talk to them as people in an attempt to understand their feelings, while also telling them that their opinions were just opinions I think it is truly amazing that any graffiti/street art forum would consider closing down a discussions, unless it was racist/sexist/homophobic. Rubberjohnny is an idiot, and most of us understand that, but to close down a discussion is fucking disgraceful. To expand on your example - how would Loius have dealt with it if the road had a log laid across it and he couldn't get to the house?
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Nov 22, 2015 15:46:43 GMT
One quick othe comment - if you just want to chat with likeminded individuals, say so. I get that, and have no issue with that and good luck to you. But, let's not pretend, eh? It's either a discussion forum,or a circle jerk. I think rubberjohnny is an idiot, as do many of us, but I feel his banal, ridiculous statements should be countered, or ignored. Not banned...
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Nov 22, 2015 16:03:00 GMT
One quick othe comment - if you just want to chat with likeminded individuals, say so. I get that, and have no issue with that and good luck to you. But, let's not pretend, eh? It's either a discussion forum,or a circle jerk. I think rubberjohnny is an idiot, as do many of us, but I feel his banal, ridiculous statements should be countered, or ignored. Not banned... nothing has been deleted or banned... I was responding to someone above who asked for mod intervention (edit: though on second read, that's not what they meant. my bad). I asked what people thought about closing it down... if you and others want it open, than I'll leave it open. that's why I asked rather than acted. as for my opinion on the matter, I've not participated in this ongoing discussion, because it's hard for me to express the mixed emotions I feel after a tragic event on an internet forum, though I'm not judging others who want to do so. I'm just offering my thought about trying to see any discussion from the oppositions point of view...not referring specifically to you - I mean everybody who's gotten into this heated exchange. carry on
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 16:05:04 GMT
One quick othe comment - if you just want to chat with likeminded individuals, say so. I get that, and have no issue with that and good luck to you. But, let's not pretend, eh? It's either a discussion forum,or a circle jerk. I think rubberjohnny is an idiot, as do many of us, but I feel his banal, ridiculous statements should be countered, or ignored. Not banned... So I am an idiot. Because I think the Govt ours and others should take out ISIS and the people who walk in to concerts and shoot hundreds of people. The people who have murdered and displaced 100's of thousands of Muslims If that makes me an idiot then so be it. However reading your non sensical comments think you might need to look a little closer to home when your looking for an idiot!! You call names but that's about it. You say rubber Johnny like it's gonna annoy me just makes you a childish fool.
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Post by IggyWiggy on Nov 22, 2015 19:36:42 GMT
NBF mod opinion: perhaps we should lock this thread down? public discourse is great, but now it's moved on to personal attacks. what's everyone think? ... No lock down. If, for some reason, action is required, move to 'the abyss' at the very most. But preferrably not.
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