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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Feb 25, 2016 9:25:55 GMT
Dos anyone know anything about these? Editions, prices, what to look out for? I find the whole Warhol market rather overwhelming and confusing!
Thanks
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Post by sɐǝpı ɟo uoıʇɐɹǝpǝɟ on Feb 25, 2016 12:24:59 GMT
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Feb 25, 2016 15:45:53 GMT
Thanks. I wouldn't touch a Sunday one. That's quite a selection at Hepner.
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Post by lee3 on Feb 25, 2016 16:36:42 GMT
Among my handful of favorite images from him. I presume we're talking prints here. These have always been very difficult sells on secondary and because of that you can get these reasonably. Even the unique black and white pulls on paper like this: www.christies.com/lotfinder/prints-multiples/andy-warhol-electric-chair-5622291-details.aspxhave struggled to hit the $50k mark (i think there was one that did $60k a few years ago but it had the silence sign in the upper right corner). Of the 10 editioned images, 9 can be had at auction for under $10k and there are always a version or two in most sotheby/christie's print auctions. The orange brush version is the one that carries the premium to the rest because it simply looks better than the others. The pink and blue ones look really good together too. A cursory review of arnet right now shows a whopping 600+ times electric chairs have sold which is more results for one image than many blue chip artists have for their career. The other 9 colors are frequently selling with premium for $7k low and a 12k high over the past year and a ~ $9k average. It's worth noting they have been at this price point for 10 years. They might have been half that price 15 years ago but that's from memory but the point is you buy this one because you love it. You can also double those auction prices if trying to source at a dealer. Last complete set sold for $189k in September of last year and last orange brush one went for $15k in April of last year. Personally, my eyes favor the orange just like the market.
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Feb 25, 2016 17:08:21 GMT
Among my handful of favorite images from him. I presume we're talking prints here. These have always been very difficult sells on secondary and because of that you can get these reasonably. Even the unique black and white pulls on paper like this: www.christies.com/lotfinder/prints-multiples/andy-warhol-electric-chair-5622291-details.aspxhave struggled to hit the $50k mark (i think there was one that did $60k a few years ago but it had the silence sign in the upper right corner). Of the 10 editioned images, 9 can be had at auction for under $10k and there are always a version or two in most sotheby/christie's print auctions. The orange brush version is the one that carries the premium to the rest because it simply looks better than the others. The pink and blue ones look really good together too. A cursory review of arnet right now shows a whopping 600+ times electric chairs have sold which is more results for one image than many blue chip artists have for their career. The other 9 colors are frequently selling with premium for $7k low and a 12k high over the past year and a ~ $9k average. It's worth noting they have been at this price point for 10 years. They might have been half that price 15 years ago but that's from memory but the point is you buy this one because you love it. You can also double those auction prices if trying to source at a dealer. Last complete set sold for $189k in September of last year and last orange brush one went for $15k in April of last year. Personally, my eyes favor the orange just like the market. Thank you, that is very helpful. I'm also a fan of the orange, it's very pleasing palette, but I'm also drawn to the dark versions, the gloom, misery, despair even. It's an image that has grown on me over the years, I'm drawn more to the darker pieces as I age...
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Post by lee3 on Feb 25, 2016 18:03:49 GMT
>>>Thank you, that is very helpful. I'm also a fan of the orange, it's very pleasing palette, but I'm also drawn to the dark versions, the gloom, misery, despair even. It's an image that has grown on me over the years, I'm drawn more to the darker pieces as I age...<<<
Certainly no wrong or right answer. Personally, my eyes always favor the dark subjects in bright colors to contrast their evil despair. the best Mao's have lipstick for my eyes, the best disaster works for me come in bright paint because who in their right mind would think to paint a bloody car cash in the early 1960s on a pink canvas? They become more powerful in hindsight as our species seems to treat each other with less respect as our population increases. The pivotal Jackie's are to my eyes the crossover between the icon portraits and the death and disaster works and why i would lean towards a weeping jackie over a smiling one. Those in my eyes are WAY under priced due to volume (there are over 250 of those paintings) but the decades to come will even that out not that it is much of a concern to me. I wish it was....
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Feb 26, 2016 18:26:31 GMT
I take your point. Part of me, however, feels that bright colours do not pay respect to the subject. Obviously I am entirely inconsistent in my view, enjoying any number of brightly coloured pieces that have representations of destruction, directly or by association, but I think the absolute horror of the electric chair, the barbarism it represents means I would struggle with a bright one. Conversely, I wonder if a dark one would depress the fuck out of me...
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Post by sturban on Feb 26, 2016 18:39:55 GMT
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Post by Still Hate Thatcher on Feb 26, 2016 18:55:44 GMT
I have seen those, and emailed the gallery. Waiting for a reply That colour is one of my favourites.
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Post by lee3 on Feb 26, 2016 19:43:28 GMT
>>>Part of me, however, feels that bright colours do not pay respect to the subject.<<<
Interesting. I think he's suggesting that we're so desensitized to our barbaric ways that he might as well put a little lipstick on this pig so to speak. I love the juxtaposition of pure evil in a dress with lush red lips suggesting it's harmless but can well appreciate the other side of the coin that says it's appalling in that light too. They look really great as a set as I know collectors who have 5 & 5 on each side of their stairway. It makes for a twisted ascent each night before bed.
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Post by dot on Feb 26, 2016 21:01:01 GMT
I have seen those, and emailed the gallery. Waiting for a reply That colour is one of my favourites. Let us know how you get on.... Interestingly they appeared on my radar recently.
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